Study of KWEB, CWEB and BABA – Part II

KWEB, CWEB and BABA

Risks

1. Risk to Chinese Internet Stocks CWEB: Set For Re-Rating Once Deflation Stabilizes (NYSEARCA:CWEB) | Seeking Alpha
   Potential traffic hike if Trump won the White House would be an event risk. While China has moved some of the assembly lines to ASEAN countries, the remaining amount of direct exports to the US remained to be quite significant at $500 bn. UBS economists estimate that China’s GDP growth could be halved if Trump imposes 60% tariffs on all Chinese goods.

Moreover, tariff s could reignite the US inflation due to supply shortages, as import s from China includes not only consumer products but also many inter mediate products and machinery for US domestic production. If inflation rose again, the Fed may alter its course of monetary easing. This shift would be detrimental to the global equity market. – this could also be bad for IWM and KRE. However, Trump might force to lower the interest rate more which will be good for both of them.

2. Risk for Investing in Leveraged ETF
The key risk of investing in a 2x daily return fund, such as CWBE, is the potential value erosion during high volatility periods. For example, if the underlying asset rises 5% in a day and loses 5% the next day, the underlying asset will be 99.75% of its original value (105% * 95% = 99.75%). The 2x daily return fund will end up being only 99% of the original value (110% * 90% = 99%).

In the fund prospectus of CWBE, Direxion has provided the table below for investors to see how high volatility will hurt the fund value. In an extreme case, if the gold price has a 100% annual volatility, the fund will lose 63% of its value, even if the index ends up flat by the year-end. Therefore, investors must be mindful that leveraged ETFs are not for long-term holdings.

3. The PBOC’s monetary stimulus is considered insufficient to boost consumer spendings, as the decline in the housing market significantly reduces household net worth.

4. While fiscal stimulus may be welcomed, consumers might still choose to save rather than spend, as improving consumer confidence takes time.

5. Despite attractive valuations, KWEB faces negative sentiment from geopolitical tensions, particularly from upcoming U.S. election volatility and potentially Trump’s Tariff War 2.0.

6. Top Six Economic Consequences of the Refugee Crisis (managementstudyguide.com)

Potential upcoming catalysts

1. Fiscal plan could come as early as Tuesday, when the country’s top economic planning agency, the National Development Reform Commission, holds a press briefing to announce a package of policies to boost the economy.

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• 11/15/2024 – Michael Burry Cautiously Ups Alibaba, JD.com, Baidu Bets With Offsetting Hedges: Retail Doesn’t Share Big Short Investor’s Optimism
• 11/14/2024 – (1) Hedge Vision on X: “Michael Burry files his Q3 13F with big China bets as well as hedges Top 5 Positions, 11 total: 1. $BABA, 16.36% 2. $JD, 15.41% 3. $JD puts, 15.41% 4. $BABA puts, 13.81% 5. $FOUR, 10.24% -Top Buys: $JD puts, $BABA puts, $JD, $BIDU puts, $BIDU -Top Sales: $HPP $BCAB $ACIC https://t.co/9Gh8L0p8zq” / X

Michael Burry files his Q3 13F with big China bets as well as hedges Top 5 Positions, 11 total: 1. $BABA, 16.36% 2. $JD, 15.41% 3. $JD puts, 15.41% 4. $BABA puts, 13.81% 5. $FOUR, 10.24% -Top Buys: $JD puts, $BABA puts, $JD, $BIDU puts, $BIDU -Top Sales: $HPP $BCAB $ACIC $REAL -New Positions: $JD puts, $BABA puts, $BIDU puts

• 11/14/2024 – How Beijing Took Control of Hong Kong’s Financial Hub—and Left the West Behind – WSJ The world’s pre-eminent East-meets-West investment hub has become more Chinese as international financial institutions, corporations, and expatriates retreat. the changes seem more structural than cyclical.  

Some of the shift in Hong Kong reflects the reality that the market for deals is weak, given China’s economic problems. New listings on Hong Kong’s stock exchange dropped to the lowest total in more than 20 years in 2023. In recent months, momentum picked up a notch after Chinese appliance maker Midea Group’s $4 billion listing fueled optimism among bankers and investors.

Even so, the changes seem more structural than cyclical.  

• 11/08/2024 – China’s Incredibly Out-Of-Touch Stimulus Policy, From not-so-urgent to out-of-touch. How to think about China’s fiscal stimulus policies.
  HFI Research

I am officially changing my stance on China’s fiscal stimulus policy. Instead of calling it the “not-so-urgent” fiscal stimulus policy, I’m changing it to the “out-of-touch” stimulus policy.

From an economic standpoint, China’s recent fiscal stimulus announcement centers around debt management and risk mitigation rather than spurring economic and consumption growth. To me, this is just backward thinking.

Take a step back and imagine that we are in the middle of COVID-19, and instead of the crazy stimulus package the US announced ($3.58 trillion or ~17% of 2020 GDP) to spur growth again, we focused on “reducing” the Federal deficit and containing our borrowing. US economic growth would have likely suffered for years to come and the unemployment rate would have remain elevated. Millions would be out of jobs still and families would still be fighting to claw their way back.

Just look around the globe. Every other country that didn’t respond in the same speed and manner the US did is still suffering the aftereffects. China is no different, and if you visit Shanghai today and talk to some of the people who reside there, they still bring up the trauma that happened in March/April 2022 as a sign of distrust of the government.

The Shanghai lockdown still lingers in many people’s minds. After nearly 15 months of the Pfizer vaccine announcement, the fact that China still pursued a zero-COVID policy was not only asinine but stupendously preposterous. Some might call it illogical, I will just call it out-of-touch.

And when it comes to stimulating the economy, the policy announcements so far are no different. Instead of tackling the major issue (the property market) all at once with clear objectives and strict deadlines, policymakers are going the route of “responding to market dynamics”. The wishy-washy approach almost guarantees an early failure followed by desperate policy measures in the end. What the Chinese fail to realize in this case is that this is a confidence game, and without a bazooka, it’s going to fail 100 out of 100 times.

Waiting for the Obvious

To many world leaders, the zero-COVID policy was nonsense from the start. For some, anchoring bias prevented them from seeing that inevitable, and for others like China and Australia, protests on the streets needed to happen for them to act urgently.

In my recent meeting with Investing In China, he pointed out to me that if you lived in China (in 2022), the zero-COVID policy ended overnight. It was as if a magic switch flipped in the minds of the policymakers, and everyone realized how stupid of a policy it was.

So in many ways, China is not stubborn, but why did it have to wait until it was so disgustingly obvious to change its ways?

I suspect that the fiscal stimulus route will be no different. Right now, policymakers continue to look at stabilizing growth as opposed to promoting one. This is the wrong approach and economic figures will pay the price for that.

• 11/08/2024 – China Moves to Ease Debt Concerns—but Again Holds Off on Stimulus Measures – WSJ Investors’ hopes for large-scale support for the economy were dashed after an anticipatory stock-market surge in recent weeks

China’s top legislative body approved a $1.4 trillion package to help local governments swap some of their mounting off-balance-sheet debts. But lawmakers disappointed many investors by not revealing new fiscal stimulus to revive an economy poised to face new headwinds with the impending return of Donald Trump.

• 10/30/2024 – China’s $1.4 trillion lifeline: Real estate crisis response

Analysis-China’s looming fiscal package set to stabilize rather than boost growth

Asia shares stumble on China anxiety; gold and bitcoin rally

• 10/13/2024 – China Keeps World Guessing on Size of Fiscal Stimulus – WSJ

It’s the biggest question in the global economy: How many hundreds of billions of dollars will Beijing plow into pumping up China’s wobbling economy?

And the next biggest: How much of that will go to consumers?

Chinese Finance Minister Lan Fo’an didn’t offer detailed answers to either question when he hosted a hotly anticipated news conference on Saturday. Lan’s silence on both fronts risks disappointing investors when stock markets open in mainland China and Hong Kong on Monday after some of the choppiest trading in years.

Still, Lan did outline a laundry list of high-priority challenges that he vowed to tackle, signaling that he would spend some $300 billion of funds that have been earmarked for this year but haven’t yet been deployed.

China Says It Has a Big Stimulus Coming—But Still Won’t Say How Big – WSJ

China state planner lays out further actions to boost economy but no new plans for major stimulus (cnbc.com)

• 10/11/2024 – China’s Stimulus Barrage Draws Out Cautious House Hunters – WSJ
• 10/11/2024 – High Hopes for China Stimulus Ahead of Weekend’s Briefing – WSJ Expectations are high heading into the event, which could introduce the fiscal stimulus analysts say has been missing

The pressure is on for China’s Finance Ministry to deliver more fiscal stimulus at a press conference on Saturday. Market sentiment has been swinging from hope to dismay as officials roll out a wave of measures to boost the economy and shore up confidence—with mixed results. A briefing from China’s top economic planner this week met with disappointment. Still, expectations are high heading into the ministry event, as it has the power to announce the fiscal stimulus analysts say is missing from the policy package.

The focus is on where the ministry will direct funds. Many are hoping for a sharpened focus on reviving consumption, an essential step toward high-quality economic growth. High on the wish list is improving the social safety net. Issuing more debt is nothing new, and the market will look for more support for lower-income communities, ANZ’s Xing said.

Beijing may also increase fiscal transfers to local governments and give them a large borrowing quota to help those struggling under big piles of debt, Nomura economists led by Ting Lu said in a note.

A fiscal package including transfers to local governments and subsidies to encourage consumption among low-income households and families with several children could temporarily lift economic growth over the next quarters

Regardless of what the Finance Ministry announces, markets will inevitable ask what’s next. Clear guidance about the path of fiscal policy next year—particularly on any potential widening of the de-facto deficit—would be a positive surprise, Morgan Stanley economists said.

And since additional budgetary measures and bond issuance require approval from China’s top legislature, investors likely need to wait for the National People’s Congress Standing Committee meeting, due at the end of the month, for details on any extra policy measures.

China Could Detail Stimulus Plans This Weekend. Here’s What the Stock Market Needs. (msn.com)

No matter what, policymakers will want to avoid a repeat of 2015, analysts say. That year, the government initially promoted investment in the stock market as it tried to reduce reliance on exports. But that led to a speculative surge in the market, forcing Beijing to intervene to curb excess margin trading. That sent stocks tumbling. And in a bid to boost export growth, the People’s Bank of China also devalued the yuan, adding to market turmoil and contributing to an economic slump.

Beijing seems to be managing expectations already: Chinese stocks fell 13% in the past week as the country’s economic planning agency offered little in new stimulus, cooling the market euphoria. It’s up to Saturday’s briefing for China to show it can truly deliver.

• 10/10/2024 – China unveils $71bn swap facility to revitalise flagging economy (msn.com)

In a bold move to support its struggling economy, China’s central bank has introduced a substantial liquidity initiative, opening a $71bn “swap facility” aimed at enabling firms to purchase stocks. This announcement, made on October 10, follows a series of measures intended to rejuvenate the economy, which has faced ongoing challenges since the lifting of Covid-19 restrictions, as reported by The Inquirer.

Now, with the introduction of the swap facility, firms can leverage equities, bonds, and other assets as collateral for access to cash in the form of high-grade liquid assets, including treasury bonds and central bank bills. The People’s Bank of China (PBoC) has indicated that this program could be expanded in response to market conditions. Early market reactions were positive, with Shanghai shares climbing over one per cent and Hong Kong stocks rising by more than two per cent.

Despite these efforts, analysts caution that more direct state support is essential to stimulate consumption and meet the government’s growth target of around 5% for the year. As anticipation builds for a fiscal policy briefing from Finance Minister Lan Fo’an on October 12, traders are eager for a concrete action plan that could further boost economic sentiment.

• 10/09/2024 – China’s Stock Market Tumbles on Doubts About Government Stimulus – WSJ Index has worst day since February 2020, Finance Ministry calls press briefing for Saturday

After a late-September burst of policy announcements about economic revival and a news conference Tuesday to tout them, the Chinese stock-market roller coaster took a plunge on Wednesday. Beijing’s answer: plans for another news conference.

• 10/08/2024 – China’s Stock Market Fever Breaks as Authorities Disappoint – WSJ
  

  Expectations for a flood of stimulus had run high before a Tuesday morning press conference by Beijing’s economic planner. the HSBC analysts wrote, details of any government spending package are more likely to come from China’s cabinet and the Ministry of Finance—neither of which has yet scheduled any coming news conferences. “More patience, please,” Liu and Xin wrote.

  HONG KONG—An epic Chinese stock market rally lost steam Tuesday after a press conference by the country’s economic planning agency disappointed hopes for more fiscal stimulus measures and raised questions about whether Beijing has more to offer the ailing economy.

Some investment bank analysts, offering some comfort on Tuesday, said investors shouldn’t have expected too much from the economic-planning agency, whose main duty is to formulate and implement strategies on economic and social development—and which doesn’t ordinarily announce bold fiscal measures, HSBC economists Jing Liu and Erin Xin wrote in a note after the Tuesday morning letdown.

Instead, the HSBC analysts wrote, details of any government spending package are more likely to come from China’s cabinet and the Ministry of Finance—neither of which has yet scheduled any coming news conferences. “More patience, please,” Liu and Xin wrote.

• 10/07/2024 – Chinese Semiconductor Stocks Extend Rally on China’s Stimulus Measures – WSJ the strength in chip stocks is leading a broader market rally in Hong Kong

Some think Beijing could unveil additional fiscal measures in the near term, as the country returns from a weeklong National Day holidays, and investors will be closely monitoring the press conference by its top economic planner, the National Development and Reform Commission, on Tuesday.

China could unveil a modest fiscal package of up 1.5 trillion yuan to 2 trillion yuan, the equivalent of $212.8 billion to $283.7 billion, in the near term, UBS economists said in a research note.

They added that the package could be split between supporting households and corporates, and reducing local governments’ financing gap.

• 10/07/2024 – China’s economy is in bad shape. Can its ‘whatever-it-takes’ stimulus effort turn things around? (msn.com) That could come as early as Tuesday, when the country’s top economic planning agency, the National Development Reform Commission, holds a press briefing to announce a package of policies to boost the economy.

“The elephant in the room seems to be a lack of consumer confidence,” economists at Nikko Asset Management wrote in a research note on Thursday. “What is really needed is for the authorities to deploy the proverbial ‘big guns’ to push out more fiscal policies. Such a move could address this crisis of confidence, improve risk appetite and reflate the economy.”

Ray Dalio, founder of the world’s biggest hedge fund Bridgewater Associates, said in a social media post last week that this could be China’s “whatever it takes” moment, if its leaders end up doing “a lot more” than what’s already been announced.

That could come as early as Tuesday, when the country’s top economic planning agency, the National Development Reform Commission, holds a press briefing to announce a package of policies to boost the economy.

“This time is different,” HSBC economists led by Jing Liu said last week in an investor note, which called the press conference unusual. “Everything seems like it’s happening all at once. But it’s still just the beginning.”

The investment bank is expecting Beijing to announce one trillion yuan ($142 million) worth of fiscal spending on consumer products or large construction projects, which will directly stimulate the economy.

Another one trillion yuan may be set aside for recapitalizing banks or helping indebted local governments to issue bonds. The latter won’t give a direct boost to the economy but could help avoid financial risk, HSBC added.

Any meaningful stimulus measures must tackle the problem of oversupply in the property market, experts said.

“The policy pivot … is serious. It has already led to an encouragingly sharp rally in Chinese stocks that could run further in the short term,” Chi Lo of BNP Paribas Asset Management said last week. “But conviction for a turnaround is still needed to sustain the recovery in the Chinese economy and asset markets.”

• 10/06/2024 – Despite Geopolitical Tensions, China Is Big Business for Western Consulting Firms – WSJ Deloitte, Ernst & Young, others have signed thousands of contracts across China as Washington and Beijing seek to untangle economies

 

• 10/06/2024 – Tilson’s email on China

This is beyond outrageous – the US needs to expel a bunch of these people, especially the Chinese diplomats involved…

How China extended its repression into an American city. Excerpt:

The Post investigation found:

• While there was aggression from both sides, the most extreme violence was instigated by pro-CCP activists and carried out by coordinated groups of young men embedded among them, verified videos show. Anti-Xi protesters were attacked with extended flagpoles and chemical spray, punched, kicked and had fistfuls of sand thrown in their faces.
• The Chinese Consulate in Los Angeles paid for supporters’ hotels and meals as an incentive to participate, according to messages shared in WeChat groups reviewed by The Post. At least 35 pro-CCP Chinese diaspora groups showed up to the APEC summit protests — including groups from New York, Pennsylvania and Washington state.
• Videos show at least four Chinese diplomats from the consulates in Los Angeles and San Francisco among the crowd of pro-CCP protesters, sometimes directly interacting with aggressive actors over four days of protests from Nov. 14-17. Some Chinese diaspora group leaders with ties to the Chinese state participated in some of the violence, the videos show.
• Chinese diplomats hired at least 60 private security guards to “protect” Chinese diaspora groups gathered to welcome Xi, according to seven people involved in the arrangement.

2) An insightful WSJ article: There’s a China-Shaped Hole in the Global Economy. The sources of this underconsumption are deeply embedded in both China’s fiscal systems and its policy choices. – is this the reason China now changing its fiscal systems nd policy choices?

Excerpt:

China’s economy is unusual. Whereas consumers contribute 50% to 75% of gross domestic product in other major economies, in China they account for 40%. Investment, such as in property, infrastructure and factories, and exports provide most of the rest.

Lately, that low consumption has become a headwind to China’s growth because property investment, once a major component of demand, has collapsed.

This isn’t just a problem for China; it’s a problem for the whole world. What Chinese companies can’t sell to Chinese consumers, they export. The result: an annual trade surplus in goods now of almost $900 billion, or 0.8% of global gross domestic product. That surplus effectively requires other countries to run trade deficits.

China’s surplus, long a sore spot in the U.S., increasingly is one elsewhere, too. While China’s 12-month trade balance with the U.S. has risen by $49 billion since 2019, it’s up $72 billion with the European Union, $74 billion with Japan and Asia’s newly industrialized economies, and about $240 billion with the rest of the world, according to data compiled by Brad Setser of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Logan Wright, head of China research at Rhodium Group, a U.S. research firm, said China accounts for just 13% of the world’s consumption but 28% of its investment. That investment only makes sense if China takes market share away from other countries, rendering their own manufacturing investment unviable, he said.

“China’s growth model is dependent at this point on a more confrontational approach with the rest of the world,” he said.

Logan Wright, head of China research at Rhodium Group, a U.S. research firm, said China accounts for just 13% of the world’s consumption but 28% of its investment. That investment only makes sense if China takes market share away from other countries, rendering their own manufacturing investment unviable, he said.

“China’s growth model is dependent at this point on a more confrontational approach with the rest of the world,” he said.

While many developing countries relied on investment and exports to fuel early growth, China is an outlier for how low its consumption is, and its sheer size. In a report, Rhodium estimates that if China’s consumption share equaled that of the European Union or Japan, its annual household spending would be $9 trillion instead of $6.7 trillion. That $2.3 trillion difference—roughly the GDP of Italy—is equal to a 2% hole in global demand.

The sources of this underconsumption are deeply embedded in both China’s fiscal systems and its policy choices.

3) Other China-related articles:

• From Fortune: Temu’s woes are fresh signs of the doom loop headed for China’s economy (full text below)
• NYTimes: ‘Twilight Love’: Shanghai’s Lonely and Retired Are Looking for Love
• About Thailand: Chinese E.V. Makers Rush In and Upend a Country’s Entire Auto Market

• 10/06/2024 – China officials to brief on economic policy implementation Tuesday (msn.com) will fiscal policies coming?

Senior officials from China’s top economic planning agency will brief reporters on Tuesday on steps to implement policies to promote economic growth, the State Council Information Office said in a notice.

It said five officials, including the chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission, Zheng Shanjie, would attend the news conference.

The topic will be: “systematically implementing a package of incremental policies to solidly promote economic growth, structural optimisation and sustained momentum of development”. The statement gave no further details.

Tuesday is the first working day in China after a run of holidays over the past week, including National Day.

Before the break, China’s central bank lowered interest rates and injected liquidity into the banking system while regulators eased some property curbs in a package of stimulus measures that sent stocks soaring.

刚刚，重磅消息！利好来了！事关A股__财经头条 (sina.com.cn)

据国新办网站6日消息，国务院新闻办公室将于2024年10月8日（星期二）上午10时举行新闻发布会，请国家发展改革委主任郑栅洁和副主任刘苏社、赵辰昕、李春临、郑备介绍“系统落实一揽子增量政策扎实推动经济向上结构向优、发展态势持续向好”有关情况，并答记者问。

此前，2024年9月24日（星期二）上午9时国新办举行新闻发布会，中国人民银行行长潘功胜、国家金融监督管理总局局长李云泽、中国证券监督管理委员会主席吴清介绍了金融支持经济高质量发展有关情况，并答记者问。

“924”国新会推出多项重磅政策，包括降准、政策利率下调、存量房贷降息、降二套首付比例、提高再贷款中央资金支持比例、续期“金融16条”等。从9月24日以来，A股、港股疯狂上涨。

• 10/06/2024 – 外资狂买！摩根大通又出手了__财经头条 (sina.com.cn)

外资正在“加仓中国”。

今日，港股低开高走，截至收盘，恒指涨2.82%，恒生科技指数涨4.99%。在近期连续大涨之后，恒指今年累计涨幅高达33.37%，恒生科技指数更是高达38.9%，超越COMEX黄金，成为表现最佳的全球大类资产。

最新数据显示，摩根大通正在港股市场加大买入中企的力度。在经历了近期大幅上涨后，中国资产的吸引力仍然十分巨大。

EPFR Global的卡梅隆·布兰德（Cameron Brandt）在接受媒体采访时表示，流入中国股市的外国资金已达到“惊人”的水平。布兰德强调，中国目前仍然是全球“唯一的游戏”，但流入中国股票基金的大部分资金仍来自中国国内投资者，他们一直在从其他资产的资金转回股票。

布兰德预计中国股市的上涨仍将持续一段时间，“中国已经明确表示，他们希望股市上涨，而且这种情况可能会持续一段时间”。

• 10/06/2024 – Billionaire investor Ray Dalio has a solution for China, but it’ll need Beijing to radically remake its own rules (msn.com)

1. Ray Dalio is again promoting the idea that China urgently needs to start a “beautiful deleveraging.”
2. The country is sitting on massive debt levels, and it’s making businesses and people hold on to cash.
3. To get the economy moving, Dalio said Beijing must free up indebted businesses and get them to borrow again.

Dalio wrote that Chinese leader Xi Jinping’s unprecedented stimulus sparked a “big week” for economic optimism, but it won’t be enough.

If China wants its big week to go down in the history books as a turning point to success, then Beijing has to “do what it takes, which will require a lot more than what was announced,” Dalio said.

Dalio emphasized that China is at a crossroads. If Beijing doesn’t start a “beautiful deleveraging,” he said, it risks allowing its crisis to drag on and create an “economic and psychological malaise like Japan experienced.”

China’s debt crisis is just one of five challenges that Dalio believes the country faces in a coming “100-year storm.” The others include the climate crisis, the US-China tech war, its souring ties with Washington, and growing wealth inequality.

The investor has long styled himself as bullish on China, but regularly speaks out on fiscal decisions the country should make to avoid catastrophe.

Top Five Challenges Facing the Chinese Economy (managementstudyguide.com)

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• 10/06/2024 – 史上首次！期货投资者可在“十一”长假期间办理开户手续_新浪新闻 (sina.com.cn) 对于个人投资者而言，10月7日网上开户只需要准备银行卡和身份证，相当于提前一天上传个人信息和进行视频验证。而由于交易所编码假期期间无法申请，所以最早要等到8日夜盘才能正常交易，但总体流程相较往年更快

这两天，多家期货公司提供的信息显示，因期货预约开户人数较多，中国期货市场监控中心（简称“中国期货监控”）拟于10月7日（周一）8：30-17：30临时开放期货网开系统，投资者可以在10月7日完成网开手续。

如这一操作正式落地，这将是史上首次期货投资者可在“十一”长假期间办理开户手续。

对于个人投资者而言，10月7日网上开户只需要准备银行卡和身份证，相当于提前一天上传个人信息和进行视频验证。而由于交易所编码假期期间无法申请，所以最早要等到8日夜盘才能正常交易，但总体流程相较往年更快。

对于投资者关注度较高的股指期货。期货公司提醒，股指期货开户门槛较高，需要连续5个交易日保证金账户可用资金余额不低于50万元；需要最近3年内具有10笔及以上的境内交易所期货交易记录，或者累计10个交易日且20笔及以上的境内期货交易所的期货仿真交易经历；此外还需要中期协知识测试成绩合格（80分以上）。

• 10/04/2024 – Chinese stocks could rally 15% as more stimulus spurs a GDP growth spurt next year, SocGen says (msn.com) the stimulus package could be announced as soon as October, potentially at the next Standing Committee of the National People’s Conference at the end of the month.

1. Chinese stocks could climb as much as 15% on the nation’s expected fiscal stimulus package, SocGen said.
2. The package could be announced in October, potentially reaching 3 trillion yuan, the bank estimated.
3. The stimulus measures could push China’s GDP to grow as much as 5% next year, strategist said.

Strategists estimated that the stimulus package could be announced as soon as October, potentially at the next Standing Committee of the National People’s Conference at the end of the month. The package could amount to as much as 3 trillion yuan, or $427 billion, and include an “open-ended commitment” for a bigger stimulus package the following year.

Those measures could push GDP growth to 5% next year, the strategists said, up from the bank’s original estimates of 4.5% growth.

“The undervaluation of China equities is something that we observe across different benchmark indices and sectors. Most markets are trading well below or within their 10-year history,” the bank said, adding that they also expected the policy to boost corporate earnings growth to as much as 15%.

• 10/04/2024 – For Chinese Tech Startups, Beijing Fills a Funding Void Left by VCs – WSJ Previous efforts to inject state money into favored industries have yielded mixed results – it seems like Chinese government has lots of incentives to boost the stock market. On the contrary, the drop of company stock and loss of money in company will be penalized : The loss of state-owned assets in China could be considered a crime, punishable by up to seven years in jail. Officials at state funds could lose their jobs for incurring investment losses. Some state investors attach more strings to protect their investments, such as requiring company founders to guarantee loans personally.

A sharp drop in venture-capital funding for Chinese startups is leading Beijing to be more involved in grooming the country’s tech industry, a strategy that threatens to handicap China’s efforts to catch up with Western technologies in the long run.

The Chinese state is now gradually taking over funding—and even exits—of tech startups.

In April, the People’s Bank of China set up a roughly $70 billion relending facility to encourage banks to lend to science and technology companies, with a fifth of the amount set aside for startups and growth-tech companies.

Chinese banks are framing their efforts as a public duty. Bank of China, one of the country’s largest banks, said in its annual report that it granted more than $200 billion in credit lines last year to about 68,000 enterprises to “promote major technological breakthroughs.” A bank in southwestern China has said it went as far as helping a small tech company register patents to obtain an intellectual-property loan.

State-owned companies with minimal tech connections are joining the push. Kweichow Moutai, a leading producer of baijiu, a liquor served at state banquets, and its smaller rival Luzhou Laojiao recently made investments in chip-related companies.

Uneasy partnerships

Chinese state funds often have priorities—such as boosting employment or aligning with other government objectives—that are different from those of private investors and startups. Additionally, Chinese state funds generally have shorter investment horizons and have a much lower tolerance for losses.

The loss of state-owned assets in China could be considered a crime, punishable by up to seven years in jail. Officials at state funds could lose their jobs for incurring investment losses. Some state investors attach more strings to protect their investments, such as requiring company founders to guarantee loans personally.

• 10/04/2024 – China home sales rise after stimulus measures, state media says (msn.com)

BEIJING (Reuters) -China’s home sales rose during the National Day holiday after a string of property stimulus measures to boost the country’s beleaguered real estate market since late September, state media said on Saturday.

During the week-long holiday period that started on Tuesday, the number of house visits, which reflects a willingness to buy a home, increased significantly while sales of homes in many places rose to “varying degrees”, state broadcaster CCTV reported.

More than 50 cities introduced policies to boost the real estate market, while nearly 2,000 developments from more than 1,000 property companies participated in promotions, CCTV said, citing the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development.

The number of visits to most of the projects participating in the promotions increased by more than 50% year-on-year, it added.

假期，楼市热了！10余省份、50余城出台优化政策_新浪新闻 (sina.com.cn)

• 10/04/2024 – SHANGHAI STOCK EXCHANGE (sse.com.cn) Shanghai  Stock Exchange are closed for China National Day
  October 1 (Tuesday) – October 7(Monday), plus September 29 (Sunday) and October 12 (Saturday) – will there be a big jump in stock right after this close? should I do short term LEAPs? Shanghai market will be closed on Monday, good time for me to invest?

SSE Trading Hours & Market Holidays [2024]

• 10/02/2024- Fundstrat’s Tom Lee on 6,000 S&P 500 year-end target: Setup into year-end has a lot of tailwinds (youtube.com)

1. china stocks dropped 70%, so they have large room to come back
2. lots of tailwinds for us stocks, might rally after election
3. investors will buy the dips like they did in all of 2024
4. stocks to be strong into year-end; Sp to reach 6000 by year end
5. upside is bigger for iwm

• 10/01/2024 – ‘No challenges can stop China’s progress,’ Xi Jinping says in 75th anniversary speech (nbcnews.com) The Chinese leader also reiterated Beijing’s aims for reunification with the self-governing island of Taiwan as he marked the 75th anniversary of the People’s Republic of China

The Beijing leader added that China would “spur” the development of Hong Kong and Macao — both self-governed regions that are ruled by Beijing under the “one country, two systems” principle.

In a 2019 speech commemorating the PRC’s 70th anniversary, Xi had said that no force could sway China’s development, amid festivities involving a military parade and large-scale celebrations. Events for the 65th anniversary were more subdued.

Xi’s speech comes at a time of uptick in Chinese markets in recent weeks, with major mainland Chinese and Hong Kong stock indexes recently surging to their highest in more than a year after authorities announced plans to support economic growth. On Thursday, a high-level meeting led by Xi called for halting the real estate decline, and for strengthening fiscal and monetary policy.

Xi Calls for Forging Mighty Force to Build Strong China (youtube.com)

• 10/04/2024 – 涨疯了！有人急了，直奔香港排队_新浪新闻 (sina.com.cn)

港股“涨疯了”。近期内地陆续推出的利好政策不但刺激了A股，也给港股市场带来一轮新的增长。

近日，A股暴涨却遇国庆休市，“因为A股第一次不想放假”一度冲上热搜。随着国庆假期A股的休市，不愿错过这轮行情的投资者将目光瞄准了港股。

港股10月4日重回上涨态势，恒生指数尾盘突破10月2日所创的阶段高点，站上22700点，最终报22736.87点，创2022年3月以来的新高，收涨2.82%。

恒生科技指数收涨4.99%。半导体股飙涨，宏光半导体涨超285%，晶门半导体大涨70%，华虹半导体、中芯国际涨近30%。

中资券商股延续强势表现，中州证券涨逾29%，申万宏源涨逾25%，国联证券涨超27%

十一”小长假开启，此前几天“疯涨”的A股却被突然按下了7天的暂停键。微信群聊中，有股民迫不及待地等待开盘。于是，“国庆不放假”的港股，成了不少股民新的选择。

据香港媒体报道，香港本地的最大券商之一辉立证券开设账户的业务出现巨大增长，许多客服员工取消了假期，全天24小时待命。老虎证券上周的开户数量激增了73.4%，移动应用的活跃用户数也同比增长了10%。

香港最大的在线券商之一富途控股表示，上周开户咨询量比平时高出了40%，富途在线平台的股票交易量比前一周增长了95%，投资者数量增加了60%。

• 10/01/2024 – (1) Carl Quintanilla on X: “JPMORGAN, on China stimulus: “.. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that China is acting somewhat out of desperation given the severity of the declines shown in the charts below.” [Cembalest] 🇨🇳 https://t.co/1KC97utX5h” / X

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• 09/30/2024 – Chinese Property Stocks Surge as Barrage of Stimulus Continues – WSJ

  Two major Chinese cities lifted key curbs on buying homes to boost demand

  Opinion | Easing fear of making mistakes can help boost China economy | South China Morning Post (scmp.com)

  Politburo meeting maps out economic work – RTHK

• 09/30/2024 – A Week of Shock and Awe Ignites China’s Stock Markets – WSJ While hopes are high, the wider economy—in particular its languishing property market—will take longer to recover

The stock-market frenzy follows an extraordinary week for the Chinese economy. After months of drip-feeding tiny doses of policy support into an ailing economy crying out for major surgery, China’s top leadership relented. Volley after volley of growth-friendly pledges were announced in a daily staccato, with officials pledging more to come if needed. The blast of stimulus—and the epic rally it set off—came on the eve of a seven-day holiday marking the 75th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic.

Though officials pledged more fiscal spending, they haven’t yet put a number on it, or offered much in the way of specifics. They promised to stabilize the property sector, but analysts say the details announced so far don’t come close to achieving that.

The measures kept coming. On Sunday evening, the government said it would lower down payments for second homes and allow existing homeowners to refinance their mortgages at lower interest rates, which although common in the U.S. is difficult in China.

Some big cities followed up with their own real-estate measures. The southern manufacturing hub of Guangzhou said Sunday that it would remove all remaining restrictions on home purchases, while Shanghai and Shenzhen, two of China’s biggest and wealthiest cities, said they would allow more people to buy homes and relax quotas on purchases in suburban areas.

The result of this policy blitz: Trading in stocks exploded, again, on Monday, while in Shenzhen, the local housing bureau pointed to apartments in a new affordable-housing project selling out in eight hours.

By the end of the day Monday, the value of stocks traded in China’s domestic stock market had reached $372 billion, the highest single-day total ever.

Property stocks were some of the biggest gainers. Hong Kong-listed shares of Kaisa Group, Sunac China Holdings, and Fantasia Holdings, all of which have defaulted on their debts, surged 83%, 55% and 38%, respectively. More than a dozen other defaulted developers also saw their shares climb by 10% or more, according to data provider Wind.

The euphoria around bank stocks was much more restrained, as fresh policies such as lowering mortgage rates and cutting interest rates threaten to further erode profit margins. Shanghai-listed shares of the country’s largest four banks edged up by between 2% and 4%.

Then, there are the remaining concerns around China’s economic fundamentals. In addition to the fifth straight month of manufacturing-sector contraction, the official purchasing managers index also showed export orders weakening and surveyed firms signaling continued caution on hiring.

Beijing’s main response to the slowdown so far has been to funnel investment into factories. The resulting pickup in production has hammered prices and profits and fueled trade tensions overseas, where many countries are growing alarmed at a wave of cut-price Chinese imports squeezing homegrown industries.

And even after the latest announcements on real estate, the sector remains a severe drag on China’s economy. Economists say Beijing still needs to do more to clear a backlog of unfinished homes that have already been paid for if consumer confidence is to return.

• 09/30/2024 – A Wild Week for China’s Markets, in Charts (wsj.com)

• 09/30/3024 – Chinese Stocks Notch Best Day Since 2008 After China Adds to Stimulus Blitz (wsj.com)

 

• 09/29/2024 – Will China’s Surprise Stimulus Work? – WSJ Getting out of the deflationary hole China dug itself is vital, and in the short run all stimulus will help. But for the long term, the form that state support takes matters.

The best week in 16 years for China’s stock market was built on hope. Worse, it was built on hope for more state intervention, one of the reasons its economy is in such trouble to start with.

Start with the hope. China went for a triple boost last week: cuts to interest rates and other easing, loans to investors and to companies to buy back their stock, and a promise of something “fiscal” in yet-to-be-defined size.

But it was the politburo’s use of the word “fiscal,” and its surprise decision to focus its September meeting on the economy, that really fired up the hopes. If China starts doling out trillion-yuan ($140 billion) stimulus here and there, could it get the economy out of its housing-induced slowdown?

The parallel for investors is 2008, when China was the first to launch massive stimulus in response to the global financial crisis. It worked, and investors remember. But the stimulus also left China with a legacy of huge local government debt, overcapacity and excess housing, worsened by the country’s subsequent failure to shift from state-directed investment to household consumption.

The last stimulus mattered hugely to investors outside China too, as the country sucked in resources for its infrastructure binge and helped support global demand. Smaller stimulus means it almost certainly won’t have such a grandiose effect this time (though copper and other industrial metals had a very good week). If it turns out to be really big, it will be a bane rather than a boon: China has been exporting deflation, and turning that into a source of global inflation would be unhelpful for the rest of the world.

We still don’t know exactly what China will do. What it needs are three things, only one of which it has addressed, and in a weird way, so far:

Change sentiment. Chinese consumers and investors have been in a dismal mood since the housing bubble began to deflate. Before the People’s Bank of China announced its rate cuts and stock-support program, shares were trading at just over 10 times estimates of earnings over the next 12 months—the biggest discount to the S&P 500 in data back to 2010.

Such cheapness helps explain why the new policy and politburo comments led to such an extraordinary gain, with the CSI 300 index of the largest companies up 15.7% in the week. After all, even the most bullish economists don’t expect support on the scale of November 2008—when the weekly gain was 15.8%.

Clearly investor sentiment changed. It isn’t obvious that this will feed through into household willingness to borrow and spend, though. Chinese households have much less invested in the stock market than Americans, and rely instead on housing and cash savings. To the extent that the market is a signal of wider sentiment, even more manipulation by the government could make its information even less useful. On the other hand, pushing it up certainly makes investors wealthier, and that will make them, at least, feel better.

• 09/28/2024 – (1) Mark Joseph on X: “@fundstrat Raises good points. $KWEB $FXI does feel you’re catching an early cycle move. https://t.co/ScFAYIdWoY” / X

00:00 – Cold Open

10:43 – Intro

12:55 – Market Setup and China Stimulus

1. David Tepper said to buy everything from China on CNBC
2. KWEB might go all time high, could be self-reinforced movement
3. China stocks are cheap in valuation, second largest day inflow for FXI

4. it might be like 2010 Dragi, it might retrace all time high

5. it is a good opportunity for US investors with record high savings to buy FXI

6. fed rate cut and mortgage rate

24:11 – The Labor Market

29:56 – The Fed Cuts and Current Risks

risks: geopolitics, election

35:52 – Utilities

39:47 – Small Caps

51:41 – History of Drawdowns

01:00:50 – The Election

01:02:54 – Demographics

01:09:38 – Money Market Inflows?

inflation might have second wave. 40% of people might vote second wave will come

01:12:52 – AI and Semiconductors

01:19:21 – What’s going on in Argentina?

01:22:25 – Favorites

work during his travel in Asia, but with less time. Great time to have a set back to stay away from noise and clear mind, like reentering my job.

• 09/27/2024 – David Tepper on Chinese stocks

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• 09/26/2024 – 中国资产ETF美股高开高走 3倍做多富时中国ETF-Direxion涨25%|ETF_新浪财经_新浪网 (sina.com.cn)

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• 09/26/2024 – China’s Stimulus Measures Are Part of an Economic Bazooka, Assembled Piece by Piece – WSJ China’s central bank and top political leaders appear to be abandoning a reluctance to act forcefully on the economy

China’s leaders have been drip-feeding support into their ailing economy for three years. This week, they jacked up the dose.

A major injection of stimulus from the central bank—and promises of more government support from the Communist Party’s top decision-making body—mark the beginning of a more muscular approach from Beijing to righting the economy after months of hesitancy, economists say.

• 09/26/2024 – KWEB: 5 Reasons Why I’m Cautious About The Recent Rally (NYSEARCA:KWEB) | Seeking Alpha

• 09/26/2024 – China’s Politburo Supercharges Stimulus With Housing, Rates Vows (yahoo.com)

  President Xi Jinping’s huddle of the 24-man Politburo concluded with a promise to strive to achieve the country’s annual economic goals, the official Xinhua News Agency reported Thursday. Officials pledged action to make the real estate market “stop declining,” their strongest vow yet to stabilize the crucial sector after new-home prices fell in August at the fastest pace since 2014.

  The government will also strictly limit the construction of new-home projects, the Politburo said, as part of efforts to ease residential oversupply — although such building has ground to a near-halt.

  While the Politburo offered no specifics on fiscal spending, Reuters reported late Thursday that the Ministry of Finance is planning to issue 2 trillion yuan ($284 billion) of special sovereign bonds this year. That funding will be evenly split between stimulating consumption and helping local governments tackle debt problems, Reuters said, citing two people familiar with the matter.

• 09/26/2024 – David Tepper is uber bullish on China: It’s a ‘buy everything moment’ (msn.com)

David Tepper, founder of Appaloosa Management, said he is going “all-in on China” after announcements of huge stimulus measures to boost the country’s economy.

In a CNBC interview, the billionaire hedge-fund manager said he is bullish on all things China (NASDAQ:MCHI), (FXI), (GXC).

He also recommended stock buybacks if the Chinese currency (USD:CNY) proves strong, and said he does not care about the proposed U.S. tariffs on China imported goods, since it is the internal stimulus that is benefiting the Chinese markets.

“You can’t be short the U.S.; you can’t be short anything in Asia.”

Billionaire investor David Tepper on China: Central bank comments ‘exceeded expectations’ | Watch (msn.com)

David Tepper is buying ‘everything’ in China: ‘ETFs…futures…everything’ (msn.com)

‘Everything…everything — ETFs, we do futures…everything. Everything. This is incredible stuff for that place, ok, so it’s everything.’ — David Tepper, founder, Appaloosa Management

Stocks Rise As China Signals More Stimulus, Billionaire David Tepper Bets Big On ‘Everything’ China-Related (msn.com)

Chinese stocks continue to enjoy a lift Thursday following a monetary stimulus announced earlier this week.

What Happened: To meet China’s economic growth target of approximately 5% this year, leaders promised to deploy “necessary fiscal spending,” per Reuters.

The 24-man Politburo meeting did not provide details on fiscal spending. Reuters reported Thursday that China is planning to issue 2 trillion yuan ($284 billion) of special sovereign bonds this year in an effort to stimulate the consumer.

The report also indicates that the Ministry of Finance plans to issue 1 trillion yuan of special sovereign debt primarily aimed at stimulating consumption. Some of the proceeds raised through the issuance of these bonds are expected to be used to increase subsidies for consumer goods renewals and business equipment upgrades.

Funds will also be used to provide roughly 800 yuan per child to households with two or more children.

China also plans to inject another 1 trillion yuan to help local governments with debt problems.

The moves out of China mark the country’s latest attempt to revive an economy that has battled deflationary pressures and growth headwinds due to property declines and wavering consumer confidence.

Chinese leaders said the stimulus is aimed at putting an end to declines in the housing market and pushing economic growth toward its 5% goal. Chinese authorities also reportedly plan to increase support for small and medium-sized businesses to help lower operating costs.

According to a separate report from Bloomberg News, China is also considering injecting up to 1 trillion yuan into its biggest state banks to help expand lending capacity, primarily through the issuance of new special sovereign bonds.

“This is a different type of stimulus,” said Hao Hong, chief economist at Grow Investment Group.

“If done through special bond issuance it’s a fiscal stimulus and can stabilize the banks as property prices continue to decline. It will ensure that the banks lending capability won’t be affected.”

Why It Matters: Several China-based stocks are surging Thursday on a more optimistic outlook for economic growth, led by some of the biggest online retail names.

Billionaire David Tepper suggested in a TV appearance that he’s building a large position in Chinese equities.

“I didn’t know that they were going to bring out the big guns,” Tepper said on CNBC’s “Squawk Box.” “When that came in, we got a little bit longer … more Chinese stocks. And so I have limits, historic limits, that I probably set a long time ago. I don’t go above 10% or 15%. Well, that’s probably not true anymore.”

The valuations of China stocks are exceptionally low, even after the jump in China this week, Tepper added. A lot of China-based companies have single-digit price-to-earnings multiples and double-digit growth rates.

While Tepper boasted that he’s buying “everything” in China, he didn’t name specific companies. He did say his firm Appaloosa Management, has been adding to Wynn Resorts (NASDAQ:WYNN) and Las Vegas Sands Corp (NYSE:LVS), which have heavy exposure to China.

Wynn Resorts was up more than 7% at last check, while Las Vegas Sands shares were up about 5.5%.

• 09/25/2024 – 7 takeaways from China’s most significant stimulus package since the pandemic | South China Morning Post (scmp.com)

The slew of measures announced were “bold by historical standards”, analysts said, as they represented the first time the central bank had offered a combination of rate cuts, reserve requirement ratio (RRR) cuts and structural monetary policies at the same time.

Specifically, analysts hailed the measures announced by the PBOC as the “most significant stimulus package since the early days of the pandemic”, but said greater fiscal support would still be needed to drive a turnaround in growth, with the world’s second-largest economy struggling to show an obvious rebound.

• 09/25/2024 – Pan Gongsheng – Wikipedia

Pan Gongsheng (Chinese: 潘功胜; pinyin: Pān Gōngshèng; born July 8, 1963) is a Chinese economist and politician who is the current Chinese Communist Party Committee Secretary and governor of the People’s Bank of China (PBC). He served as the Director of the State Administration of Foreign Exchange from 2016 to 2023. At the PBC, he has worked on the monetary policy of China.

Pan received his Ph.D. in economics from Renmin University of China. He did his post-doctoral research at Cambridge University and was a research fellow at Harvard University.^[1]

Home-Management Team-Pan Gongsheng (pbc.gov.cn)

• 09/25/2024 – China unveils fresh stimulus to boost high-quality economic development (www.gov.cn)

BEIJING, Sept. 24 — China’s central bank, top securities regulator and financial regulator on Tuesday announced at a press conference a raft of monetary stimulus, property market support and capital market strengthening measures to boost the country’s high-quality economic development.

MONETARY STIMULUS

Pan Gongsheng, governor of the People’s Bank of China, said China would cut the reserve requirement ratio (RRR) by 0.5 percentage points in the near future, providing about 1 trillion yuan (about 141.82 billion U.S. dollars) in long-term liquidity to the financial market.

Depending on the liquidity situation in the market, RRR may be further lowered by 0.25 to 0.5 percentage points within the year, Pan said.

He said that the central bank will reduce the interest rate of seven-day reverse repurchases from 1.7 percent to 1.5 percent.

The reduction was aimed at guiding the loan prime rate and deposit rate to move downward and maintaining stability in the net interest margin of commercial banks, said Pan.

Pan said the central bank would keep monetary policy accommodative, strengthen monetary policy regulation, make monetary policy regulation more precise, and create a sound monetary and financial environment for stable economic growth and high-quality development.

China targets economic growth of around 5 percent in 2024.

The country’s economy maintained stable expansion in the first half of the year despite rising challenges from home and abroad.

Data from the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) showed that China’s gross domestic product (GDP) grew 5 percent year on year in the period to 61.68 trillion yuan. In the second quarter, China’s GDP expanded 4.7 percent year on year.

MORTGAGE RATE CUTS

Pan added that China will lower mortgage rates on existing home loans to a level similar to those of newly issued housing loans.

The average reduction in mortgage rates for existing home loans is expected to be around 0.5 percentage points, he said.

“The new policy, which is conducive to further reducing borrowers’ mortgage interest expenses, is expected to benefit 50 million households, or a population of 150 million,” said Pan.

This move is expected to reduce the total interest expenses for households by approximately 150 billion yuan per year on average, which will help boost consumption and investment, he added.

The minimum down payment ratio for both first and second homes will be unified, with the nationwide minimum down payment ratio for second homes to be reduced from 25 percent to 15 percent, Pan said.

On May 17, China announced the establishment of a 300-billion-yuan re-lending facility that supports local state-owned enterprises to buy commercial homes for affordable housing.

Pan said the central bank will increase its funding proportion in the affordable housing re-lending policy from the original 60 percent to 100 percent.

“This adjustment will help accelerate the reduction of inventory in the commercial housing market,” Pan said.

China’s large and medium-sized cities saw month-on-month declines in both new and second-hand home prices in August, NBS data showed.

FINANCIAL MARKET SUPPORT

Moreover, the central bank will create new monetary policy tools to support the stable development of the stock market, said Pan.

The central bank will establish a swap program for securities, funds and insurance companies to obtain liquidity from the central bank through asset collateralization. The program will significantly enhance companies’ ability to acquire funds and increase their stock holdings, Pan said.

The central bank will also create a special re-lending facility to guide banks to provide loans to listed companies and their major shareholders for buybacks and increasing shareholdings, he said.

Experts consider the release of the new batch of policies a positive signal of strengthening policy coordination and efforts to achieve the annual economic growth target.

The central bank’s policies, which exceed market expectations, will boost market confidence, stimulate the vitality of business entities, stabilize credit levels, and enhance the sustainability of financial support for the real economy, said Wen Bin, chief economist at China Minsheng Bank.

To better channel funds into the capital market, China will issue a guideline that seeks to improve the entry supporting system of various types of medium and long-term funds into the capital market, according to Wu Qing, head of the China Securities Regulatory Commission.

The commission will also release six measures to promote mergers and acquisitions, and work with various parties to facilitate the circulation of private equity and venture capital funds in the process of fundraising, investment, management and withdrawal, Wu said.

More efforts will be made to protect the legitimate rights and interests of small and medium-sized investors, and firm actions will be taken to crack down on illegal activities such as financial fraud and market manipulation, according to Wu.

Li Yunze, head of the National Financial Regulatory Administration, said China plans to increase the tier-1 capital of six major commercial banks.

The capital will be injected in an orderly manner, with coordinated advancement, phased implementation and tailored policies, said Li.

Tier-1 capital refers to the core capital held in a bank’s reserves, including common stock and disclosed reserves.

China’s major stock indices surged following the release of the policies and measures, with the Shanghai Composite Index and the Shenzhen Component Index both closing with an increase of more than 4 percent.

• 09/24/2024 – China Tries to Jolt Ailing Economy  – WSJ Central bank cuts interest rates and dangles loans for stock-market investors as concerns around world’s second-largest economy intensify. PBOC Gov. Pan Gongsheng said further easing is in the pipeline, with another reduction in bank reserve requirements expected before year-end. The central bank also announced it would offer 500 billion yuan in loans, equivalent to roughly $70 billion, to funds, brokers and insurers to buy Chinese stocks as part of an effort to lift the country’s ailing stock market. It said it would put up another 300 billion yuan to finance share buybacks by listed companies.
  Plunge ProtectionChina’s benchmark index rose after the​central bank said it would offer loans to buy​stocks.

China’s central bank announced a blitz of measures to support the country’s weakening economy and energize its moribund stock market, an unusually broad package that signals growing unease in Beijing after a run of downbeat numbers on jobs, spending and inflation.

Economists said that while the blast of support is welcome, it won’t be enough to pull China’s economy out of a low-growth rut marked by falling prices, a festering real-estate crisis and spiraling tensions over trade.

• 09/24/2024 – Chinese stocks soar on stimulus plan. Can the rally continue? – MarketWatch China stimulus package is most significant since pandemic, economist says

China’s stock market surged the most in more than two years and industrial commodity prices bounced after Beijing on Tuesday unleashed a swathe of stimulus measures intended to revive the world’s second biggest economy.

But amid the euphoria there was skepticism among many observers that the pledges would provide a sufficient economic boost or spark a sustained stock market rally.

• 09/23/2024 – China central bank releases slate of support measures amid a deepening economic slump (cnbc.com)

1. People’s Bank of China Gov. Pan Gongsheng announced a flood of support measures in a rare press conference Tuesday amid a deepening economic slump.
2. Beijing will cut the amount of cash banks need to have on hand, known as the reserve requirement ratio, or RRR, by 50 basis points in the near term, he said.
3. Pan also said the PBOC would cut the 7-day repo rate by 0.2 percentage points, and signaled that a 0.2-0.25% cut in the loan prime rate could follow.

• 09/23/2024 – China’s Central Bank Announces Rate Cut, Injects Liquidity – WSJ The People’s Bank of China cut the 14-day reverse repurchase interest rate by 10 basis points to 1.85%

China’s central bank has lowered a short-term policy rate and pumped more liquidity into the financial system, as it continues efforts to help boost the economy.

The People’s Bank of China cut the 14-day reverse repurchase interest rate by 10 basis points to 1.85%, and injected 74.5 billion yuan, equivalent to $10.6 billion, of liquidity via the policy tool, it said on its website on Monday.

• 09/05/2024 – (1) Michael Burry Stock Tracker ♟ on X: “Huge news for Alibaba $BABA Last Friday, Chinese regulators announced the company has completed a 3 yr regulatory “rectification process” BABA’s journey w/ antitrust issues started back in 2021, but things are starting to turn around in a big way 🧵 Here’s the full story… https://t.co/XGKZaDekwH” / X

(1) Michael Burry Stock Tracker ♟ on X: “1/ After hitting all time highs in October of 2020, BABA has struggled since The woes came to a peak when in November when China slapped Alibaba with anti trust law violations China imposed a record $2.75B USD fine on Alibaba after an anti-monopoly probe was conducted https://t.co/2oIzGipA1I” / X

(1) Michael Burry Stock Tracker ♟ on X: “2/ Why the fine? Chinese regulators concluded that Alibaba had been “abusing its market dominance” since 2015 by preventing merchants from using other e-commerce platforms Alibaba punished certain merchants who sold goods both on Alibaba and on rival platforms https://t.co/0QYd3xj60X” / X

(1) Michael Burry Stock Tracker ♟ on X: “3/ In response, Alibaba reorganized its international and domestic e-commerce businesses along with replacing its CFO Fast forward to 2023, Chinese regulations came to a peak and Alibaba made their biggest change in its 24 history…” / X

(1) Michael Burry Stock Tracker ♟ on X: “4/ In March of 2023 Alibaba announced that its splitting its business into 6 separate units This radical reshaping included each businesss unit being overseen by its own CEO, board of directors, ability to raise outside capital, and seek its own IPO https://t.co/THQivZT05Y” / X

(1) Michael Burry Stock Tracker ♟ on X: “5/ Fast forward to last Friday China’s State Administration for Market Regulation or ‘SAMR’ for short, said that Alibaba has stopped the ‘choose one of two’ monopoly behavior and has made significant progress in its compliance over the years Shares jumped on the news https://t.co/7U1fkPVHpK” / X

(1) Michael Burry Stock Tracker ♟ on X: “6/ The antitrust troubles seem to be over after the close of this rectification process According to CNBC, “SAMR will continue to improve compliance and efficiency to accelerate innovation” In other good news, founder of Alibaba Jack Ma & Joe Tsai have been buying shares” / X

(1) Michael Burry Stock Tracker ♟ on X: “7/ $BABA has rallied nicely off $71 a share lows In the past 6 months Alibaba is up over 14% BABA is Burry’s largest position, the stock takes up over 21% of his portfolio & he even added 30,000 more shares in the last 13F report https://t.co/6h24NB7OxR” / X

(1) Michael Burry Stock Tracker ♟ on X: “8/ Burry is still very bullish on $BABA ‘s future and we will keep updating you on where this goes Make sure to share this if you enjoyed the thread and follow for more hedge fund and Burry activity 🤝 https://t.co/rf3a2D8fNf” / X

• 2024 – (1) Michael Burry Stock Tracker ♟ on X: “🚨 BREAKING: Burry just filed his newest trades He’s even more bullish on China than before Chinese companies now make up 45% of his entire portfolio – $BABA $BIDU $JD https://t.co/RGv2HnOcFE” / X

(1) Michael Burry Stock Tracker ♟ on X: “10/ Burry is anticipating economic recovery after the country’s prolonged COVID-19 lockdowns To stimulate growth, the Chinese government has announced plans to issue $1 Trillion yuan in T bonds and has eased mortgage regulations to boost the housing market An improved economy https://t.co/SmsVwZzWEv” / X

08/14/2024 – (1) Jeff Weniger on X: “WARNING: Bullish China stock market chart! The bond market is pricing a depression, trading at yields akin to December 2008 and early early early Covid (spring 2020). People who bought Chinese stocks at both points made a pile of money. Sample size is two. Happy investing. https://t.co/3zW74SsFZQ” / X

• 02/24/2023 –

Spy Balloon Fallout Highlights Fragility Of U.S.-China Relations

Xi has promoted an economic strategy of “dual circulation,” emphasizing self-reliance and leveraging the country’s massive market to generate GDP growth.
US-China relations are heading towards an irreversible downward spiral, with Washington sanctioning more Chinese firms with alleged ties to military intelligence.
President Biden has been criticized by Republican members of Congress for being too soft on China and may be inclined to further strengthen the U.S.’s “anti-China” containment policy.

• 02/15/2023 –Potential upcoming catalysts
  1. holiday season for e-commerce companies
  2. end of release of regulatory laws. Chinese government’s crack down on big tech might come to end by the end of the year
  3. reconfiguring growth and household properties will be shift to equities. cash flows will be substantially higher.
  4. IPO of Ant’s financial (one news here)
  5. 中金：北京证券交易所宣布设立，中国资本市场迎来新格局
  6. upcoming Biden-Xi summit by end of the year
  7. One Upside to Economic Woes May Be China-U.S. Thaw
     Strong exports and weak domestic demand in China, paired with scarce goods and inflation in the U.S., underline the two economies’ mutual dependency
  8. Jack Ma reappears in Hong Kong
  9. The Biden administration has continued the tough public façade of confronting China on trade.
  10. China to relief and abandon CV-zero Policies
  11. relief of Chinese real estate market crisis
  12. The pursuit of COVID-zero and the consequential lockdowns sparked panic-buying, boosting online sales
  13. With Xi Jinping’s third-term re-election largely assured, investors could also be relieved by a likely continuation of an administration they are familiar with.

  Risks

  1. delisting of China stocks from us market
  2. downfall of China economy
  3. bad outcome from upcoming Biden-Xi summit
  4. fraud is uncovered in Chinese stocks and crash the stock price. Possibly in specific stocks, hard on all stocks
  5. VIE cancellation – biggest risk
  6. Real estate property market will drag down the whole economy (Property accounts for about 70% to 80% of household wealth in China, and drives about 10% of household income, according to Moody’s.)
  7. In China, War and Stagflation Jitters May Permanently Damage the Market
  8. a new draft of China’s overseas listing rules that may be finalized as soon as this month
  9. SEC might delist VIE stock, SEC warns of investment risks. Aug 17, 2021, SEC Chairman Gary Gensler issued his most direct warning yet about investing in Chinese companies, reiterating a call for more disclosures of risks. “When American investors think we’re investing in a Chinese company, it’s much more likely that we’re actually investing in a company in the Cayman Islands,” he said in a video message. “In certain sectors like technology and the internet, the government of China actually doesn’t allow ownership and investment from people outside of China. To get around this, China-based. operating companies establish contracts with shell companies in other countries.” Outlook: Gensler is asking SEC staff to take “a pause, for now” in approving IPOs of shell companies that Chinese firms use to list shares in the U.S. He also wants investors to have more information about how those firms are structured and what money is flowing between the Cayman Islands and China. “That means disclosing the political and regulatory risk that the government of China could, as they’ve done a number of times recently, significantly change the rules in the middle of the game.”
  10. Statement on Investor Protection Related to Recent Developments in China, July 30, 2021

      01/30/2023 – China’s PMI comes bakc?

China’s factory activity likely contracted more slowly in January: Reuters poll

China’s factory activity in January is expected to have contracted more slowly than in December, a Reuters poll showed on Monday, with production hampered as workers continued to fall sick after the government dismantled its “zero-COVID” regime.”

“Early signs suggest that conditions improved in January,” according to a note from Capital Economics, “and any lingering supply-side issues will matter less at a time of year when factories wind down production in any case,” they added while forecasting a PMI reading of 50.0.

The world’s second-largest economy continues to face major external headwinds on the demand-side, however, with China’s export-orientated manufacturers continuing to report shrinking order books as fears of a global recession linger.

China’s cabinet pledged on Saturday to boost consumption as to help drive the economy’s recovery. Over the Lunar New Year holiday, consumption increased 12.2% on the same period last year despite concerns that the services sector might be hobbled by staff shortages resulting from COVID.

China aims to boost consumption and imports as global demand cools

China’s cabinet said on Saturday it would promote a consumption recovery as the major driver of the economy and boost imports, state broadcaster CCTV reported, at a time of cooling global demand as major economies teeter on the brink of recession.

At a meeting chaired by Premier Li Keqiang, China’s state council – which functions as the cabinet – also vowed to speed up the rollout of foreign investment projects, maintain a stable yuan, ease cross-border travel and help companies to participate in domestic and overseas trade shows.

• 02/17/2022 – Alibaba, Baidu affiliates land on U.S. Trade Rep’s ‘notorious markets’ list

1. Many of the largest Chinese e-commerce companies found themselves in the sights of the U.S. Trade Representative, Thursday, due to their alleged roles in the buying and selling of counterfeit goods online.
2. Affiliates of Alibaba (NYSE:BABA) and Baidu (NASDAQ:BIDU), as well as PinDuoDuo (NASDAQ:PDD) were among those companies on the latest “notorious markets” list by the Office of the United States Trade Representative [USTR], Ambassador Katherine Tai. The list includes 42 online sites, and 35 traditional outlets that Tai said are involved in “substantial trademark counterfeiting” and copyright piracy.

• 02/16/2022 – Appaloosa sold all 525,000 shares of Alibaba (BABA, Financial), trimming 1.85% of its equity portfolio.

David Tepper Drives Into General Motors, Boots Alibaba

• 01/19/2022 – China cuts benchmark rates twice on Monday and Thursday, and more to come in the coming months, in order to bolster its economy. Enshrined stability as the “top priority” for China’s economy in 2022, in a meeting chaired by Mr. Xi. In face of downward economic pressure, China’s top economic planning agency, the National Development and Reform Commission, said Tuesday that Beijing is expediting the rollout of major infrastructure projects to counter uncertainties early in the year. – all these will be good tailwinds for CWEB and global energy market

China Cuts Benchmark Rates to Bolster Flagging Economy – WSJ
Move follows raft of economic data released by China that showed slowing growth in final months of 2021

China’s central bank lowered its benchmark lending rates, stepping in to support a slowing economy that has been weighed down by a slump in the property market during a politically important year for leader Xi Jinping.

The People’s Bank of China said Thursday that it cut its five-year loan prime rate, a benchmark for medium- and longer-term loans including mortgages, to 4.60% from 4.65%—the first such cut since April 2020. The Chinese central bank also lowered the one-year loan prime rate by 10 basis points to 3.70%, the second cut to that rate in as many months.

• 01/18/2022 – CPC to convene 20th National Congress in second half of 2022

The Communist Party of China (CPC) will convene the 20th National Congress of the CPC in Beijing in the second half of 2022, according to a communique released on Thursday.

• 01/17/2022 – Xi’s new policies

From 6G to big data, China is looking to boost tech’s share of its economy

1. China is aiming for 10% of its gross domestic product to come from the digital economy by 2025, up from 7.8% in 2020.
2. As part of its 14th Five Year Plan, Beijing says that this will come from technologies like big data and 6G mobile internet, even though that is some years away.
3. The ambition highlights China’s push to get ahead in new technology as it continues a rivalry with the U.S. in areas from semiconductors to artificial intelligence.

China’s Xi says countries must abandon ‘Cold War mentality,’ warns against confrontation

1. Speaking via videoconference at The Davos Agenda virtual event, Xi said: “We need to discard Cold War mentality and seek peaceful co-existence and win-win outcomes.”
2. Beijing and Washington’s tense relationship over Taiwan has been identified as a top risk for Asia this year, while one of the region’s top experts has previously warned China’s “disturbing” crackdown on U.S.-listed China stocks could be interpreted as the early stages of a Cold War.

• 01/03/2022 – Davidson is right, I should not be tempted to invest in emergent stocks (such as Chinese stocks) because what is not considered is the risk to private property which is considerably higher in countries like China, Venezuela, Turkey, Russia and etc. Investors take this into consideration and have favored the US over EFA(developed but leaning socialistic) and EMM(often non-democratic authoritarian) at risk of unexpected government confiscation. I should have sticked to the US.

Stick to the US – “Davidson” submits:

In 2014 the data emerged which supported the recommendation that investors focus solely on US based companies. The basis for this was the monthly chart SP500, EFA vs EEM. With the SP500 performance vastly better than EFA and EMM since then, the same recommendation is renewed today.

Consensus opinion today recommends 40% of portfolios should be placed in EEM(Emerging Markets).  It is worth examining why the asset class is viewed as undervalued and offering higher than average growth when the historical data does not support this perception. One needs to do some digging and have enough experience to puzzle-out this bit of cognitive dissonance. It is a similar narrative that has been repeated multiple times by the many pundits in the media. They accepted an earlier view that seemed reasonable at the time and developed products to take advantage of new-found opportunity, it seems no one applied hindsight to reassess the initial point of view as the data emerged to reveal that the outcome has  failed to meet expectation. It is worth asking the question, “Why continue to recommend International investing when the US has such outperformance?”

The financial industry (it is an industry) like any industry seeks to maximize returns and minimize risks. The emergence of Modern Portfolio Theory(MPT) in 1952, a purely mathematical approach based on statistical analysis of prices, sought to eliminate faulty human judgement in the investment process. With the growth of employee retirement plans emerging post-WWII, the corporate responsibility to produce acceptable results grew significantly as did the risk of failure and subsequent liabilities. The business, social and political risks were rising sharply as faulty investment judgement paved the path towards financial self-immolation. MPT coming out of academia with Harry Markowitz and others eventually receiving the 1990 Nobel Prize in Economics gradually became the basis for all business education programs. As a mathematical construct, it could be defined and taught in graduate programs and became a significant offering for universities. Applying MPT to investment management mostly eliminated human judgement which in turn lowered liability exposure. When markets corrected, the ensuing investor lawsuits experienced lower success rates with MPT’s academic and Nobel Prize backing. As investment fees became more competitive, firms lower overall cost of business implementing MPT. Financial Planning now a ubiquitous product is based on MPT with many firms assuring investors they will have successful outcomes, something they would have never contemplated advertising 20yrs ago. Human judgement has been replaced by computer analysis.

So…“Why continue to recommend International investing when the US has such outperformance?” The basis for this recommendation lays in a simple belief long held and embedded in MPT’s mathematical model: Smaller = Higher Growth It is the consensus view that smaller companies grow faster than larger companies. That view, based on experience in the US, has been translated globally without any other consideration. In general smaller companies do grow faster than significantly larger companies. It is easier to double revenue when a company is very small just beginning to offer its products vs a long-established company with an existing and successful market position. The issue occurs when making broad top-down assumptions and not reassessing one’s position after one has expanded into unfamiliar markets believing the rules are universal. MPT basically recommends EMG on market capitalization. EMG companies are proportionately smaller and should have higher growth. The recommendation is further supported by EEM companies having lower P/Es and lower Pr/Cash Flow ratios vs US companies. What is not considered is the risk to private property which is considerably higher in countries like China, Venezuela, Turkey, Russia and etc. Investors take this into consideration and have favored the US over EFA(developed but leaning socialistic) and EMM(often non-democratic authoritarian) at risk of unexpected government confiscation. The belief that mathematics and computer analysis reveal investment opportunities better than human judgement is one of those perceptions that fails the test of reality.

When investing one must always, always review initial assumptions and expectations. New data emerges daily that either supports one’s original thought process or looks very different in light of hindsight. The perception behind the consensus recommendation of 40% portfolio exposure to EEM is not supported by the data. The SP500 has a growth rate of 10x+ that of EEM and ~4x that the EFA. The recommendation has been and continues to be, avoid International investing as the risk/return is unfavorable relative to the US.

• 12/26/2021 – seems like positive news from official CSRC – 1. If complying with domestic laws and regulations, companies with VIE structure are eligible to list overseas after filing with the CSRC. 2. We will adhere to the “Grandfathering principle”, prioritize stability while pursing progress, and ensure the smooth and steady implementation of the filing system. The institutional design is as follows: First, we will start applying the filing requirements to new offerings and listings. Only new initial public offerings and refinancing by existent overseas listed Chinese companies will be required to go through the filing process; other existent overseas listed companies will be allowed sufficient transition period to complete their filing procedures. Second, we will differentiate between initial public offering and refinancing. We have fully taken into account the efficiency of refinancing in overseas markets. 3. The highly globalized capital markets in today’s world call for closer cooperation and policy communication among regulators in different jurisdictions. Going ahead, the CSRC will further promote cross-border securities regulatory cooperation with our international counterparts. Firstly, we will enhance information sharing by establishing a filing information relaying mechanism. Secondly, we will step up cross-border enforcement cooperation and form synergies in cracking down on violations of laws and regulations such as financial fraud, so as to safeguard fairness, maintain market order, and protect the legitimate rights of global investors. Thirdly, we will proactively promote cross-border cooperation in audit supervision, so as to create a sound regulatory environment for overseas listings.

Relevant Officials of the CSRC Answered Reporter Questions

Dec.23.2021

On December 24, 2021, the CSRC issued the Provisions of the State Council on the Administration of Overseas Securities Offering and Listing by Domestic Companies (Draft for Comments, hereinafter referred to as the “Administration Provisions”) and the Administrative Measures for the Filing of Overseas Securities Offering and Listing by Domestic Companies (Draft for Comments, hereinafter referred to as the “Measures”), which are now open for public comments. The reporter interviewed relevant officials of the CSRC regarding the consultation.

1. Reporter: What is the background for improving the  regulatory system for overseas offering and listing of Chinese companies?

Official: Opening-up is the basic state policy of China.  In recent years, the opening-up of China’s capital markets has been steady and fast, with an increasing number of Chinese companies listed in overseas markets such as Hong Kong SAR, New York, London in direct or indirect forms. Overseas listings have played a positive role in supporting Chinese companies to utilize foreign capital, enhance corporate governance, and deeply integrate into the global economy. While Chinese companies listed overseas have greatly contributed to the economic development and social prosperity of China, both domestic and overseas investors have shared the dividends of China’s sustained and steady economic growth by investing in Chinese companies listed overseas.

As the opening-up of China’s capital markets continues to deepen, the initiative to improve the regulatory system for overseas listings has been proposed with the purpose of promoting the sound, sustainable and long-term development of Chinese companies listed overseas. The current legal basis for the regulation of overseas listings is the Special Provisions of the State Council Concerning the Overseas Securities Offering and Listing by Limited Stock Companies (No. 160 Order of the State Council, hereinafter referred to as the “Special Provisions”), which was formulated at the early stage of China’s capital markets and has lagged behind the demand of market development and high-level opening-up. The revised Securities Law of the People’s Republic of China (hereinafter referred to as the “Securities Law”) amended in December 2019 stipulates that direct or indirect overseas listings should comply with relevant provisions of the State Council. Companies, intermediaries and other relevant parties are also paying close attention to how the regulatory system for overseas listings will be improved and reformed, and are expecting the rules specifying relevant procedures and requirements to be released timely by the government in order to enhance overseas listings compliance with laws and regulations.

Against such backdrop, after reviewing and assessing the implementation of the Special Provisions, the CSRC, in coordination with other relevant government authorities, have extended proposals to comprehensively revise the Special Provisions and formulate new regulations of direct or indirect overseas listings, hence drafted the Administration Provisions and the supporting Measures, aiming at addressing the existing weaknesses of the system and meeting the demand of market development.

Moving forward, after the two rules are implemented upon completion of public consultation and due legislative procedures, the CSRC will formulate and issue guidance for filing procedures to further specify the details of filing administration and ensure that market entities could refer to clear guidelines for filing.

2. Reporter: What are the purposes for improving the regulatory system for overseas listings?

Official: Improving the regulatory system for overseas listings is not only a pragmatic measure to expand the opening-up of the capital markets and bolster the “dual circulation” development paradigm, but also a demonstration of China’s determination to deepen the reforms to streamline administration, delegate powers and improve regulation and services.

First, it can meet the demand of supporting Chinese companies to raise capital in overseas markets in compliance with laws and regulations. The CSRC and relevant government authorities in China fully respect companies’ own choices for listing venues, and such attitude is consistent, clear, and unswerving. Looking ahead, neither the trend of expanding opening-up nor the attitude of supporting companies to utilize both domestic and international resources will be altered. Improving the regulatory system for overseas listings is not to  tighten up regulatory policies for overseas listings. We stay committed to seeking development through opening-up, and promoting development through improving regulation. We will strive to maintain effective channels for overseas capital-raising , and provide companies with clear, transparent and operable rules for overseas listings, and a more stable and predictable institutional environment.

Second, it can meet the demand of promoting an institution-based high-level opening-up. Overseas listings is an important part of the two-way opening-up of China’s capital markets, and thus overseas-listed companies should meet the requirements of high-quality development. Complying with the laws and regulations of China is the basic requirement for Chinese companies, no matter in which market they choose to be listed. In recent years, some specific overseas-listed Chinese companies have committed serious violations of laws and regulations such as accounting frauds, which have damaged the international reputation of Chinese companies and negatively impacted their overseas financing activities. Through improving the regulatory system for overseas listings, security can be better ensured while achieving development and opening-up, and the overall regulatory compliance of overseas-listed Chinese companies can be enhanced, which is conducive to allowing overseas listings to enable technological advancements and bolster the growth and international competitiveness of Chinese companies, promoting legitimate rights of global investors, and ensuring a regulated, sound and orderly development of overseas listings.

Third, this is in line with the reforms to streamline administration, delegate powers and improve regulation and services. Over the recent years, CSRC has been pushing forward reforms to better regulate overseas listings of Chinese companies, by streamlining application procedures and requirements, as well as substantially shortening the approval cycle. Such reforms have yielded positive results. Under the newly established filing system, CSRC will not examine whether companies meet the listing requirements and conditions of the host overseas market; nor will the CSRC conduct any such examination or investigation in disguised forms. Rather, we will strive to strengthen domestic and cross-border regulatory cooperation and hold market entities accountable for compliance with laws and regulations. We will continue to open up and invigorate the market while standardizing our regulations, in order to better regulate overseas listings of Chinese companies.

3. Reporter: Please introduce the implementation steps of overseas listing filings and relevant arrangements for smooth and orderly implementation, such as transition period.

Official: We will adhere to the “Grandfathering principle”, prioritize stability while pursing progress, and ensure the smooth and steady implementation of the filing system.

The institutional design is as follows: First, we will start applying the filing requirements to new offerings and listings. Only new initial public offerings and refinancing by existent overseas listed Chinese companies will be required to go through the filing process; other existent overseas listed companies will be allowed sufficient transition period to complete their filing procedures. Second, we will differentiate between initial public offering and refinancing. We have fully taken into account the efficiency of refinancing in overseas markets. Hence, different institutional arrangements have been made for refinancing in terms of filing time and filing material requirements, which will match with the normal practices of overseas markets and reduce the impact on financing activities of overseas listed companies.

4. Reporter: Please introduce the main filing process for overseas listings.

Official: The CSRC’s filing system will focus on compliance issues of domestic companies, while the filing procedures and material requirements will be based on necessity and rationality. The filing process is expected to be more efficient than the current administrative approval process, so as to reduce excessive burden on companies. According to the filing requirements, companies are obliged to submit compliance reports, while their intermediaries must issue necessary verification materials. The CSRC will issue filing notice within 20 working days upon receiving complete and compliant filing materials. If relevant information in the filing materials are deemed incomplete or insufficient, companies will be requested to submit supplementary materials or explanation. According to the information reflected in the materials, the CSRC may solicit opinions from relevant authorities where necessary. The solicitation time will be excluded from the filing period. Feedback of relevant authorities will be conveyed to the applicant timely.

5. Reporter: Please introduce considerations with respect to domestic cross-departmental regulatory coordination under the filing system.

Official: In order to successfully implement the filing system, the CSRC will work closely with other domestic regulatory authorities responsible for relevant industries and sectors in creating a regulatory coordination mechanism in order to strengthen policy coherence, information sharing and regulatory collaboration. To alleviate regulatory burdens on companies, companies will not be requested to obtain permits or approvals from various authorities.

First, where the authority of a specific industry clearly requests in its rules and regulations that a company undergo certain regulatory procedures prior to overseas listing, the company shall obtain such regulatory opinions, filing records, or approval from the authority before submitting the filing application with the CSRC. For instance, according to the “Measures for the Implementation of Administrative Licensing Matters for Chinese Commercial Banks”, Chinese commercial banks are obliged to seek approval from the banking regulatory authorities prior to overseas listings.

Second, in accordance with the Administration Provisions, the CSRC will take the lead in establishing a cross-departmental supervisory coordination mechanism for overseas listings. Upon receiving filing applications, the CSRC will proactively communicate with relevant regulatory authorities or solicit opinions to improve filing efficiency. In addition, the CSRC will support and cooperate with relevant authorities to jointly clarify the rules and regulations of certain sectors, in order to enhance policy predictability.

Last but not least, companies that fall within the scope of security reviews in accordance with relevant laws and regulations, such as foreign investment security and cyber security reviews, shall declare and undergo security review procedures before submitting filing applications.

6. Reporter: What are the considerations around improving cross-border cooperation in securities regulation?

Official: The highly globalized capital markets in today’s world call for closer cooperation and policy communication among regulators in different jurisdictions. Going ahead, the CSRC will further promote cross-border securities regulatory cooperation with our international counterparts. Firstly, we will enhance information sharing by establishing a filing information relaying mechanism. Secondly, we will step up cross-border enforcement cooperation and form synergies in cracking down on violations of laws and regulations such as financial fraud, so as to safeguard fairness, maintain market order, and protect the legitimate rights of global investors. Thirdly, we will proactively promote cross-border cooperation in audit supervision, so as to create a sound regulatory environment for overseas listings.

7. Reporter: What’s CSRC’s attitude toward overseas listings of companies with VIE structure?

Official: If complying with domestic laws and regulations, companies with VIE structure are eligible to list overseas after filing with the CSRC.

• 12/26/2021 – also positive news reported from WSJ. The China Securities Regulatory Commission said the draft rules aren’t meant to tighten policies for overseas listings, though it also stressed that companies listed overseas can’t leak state secrets and that they must follow domestic regulations such as foreign-investment, cybersecurity and data-security laws. It is seeking public consultation until Jan. 23. The rules also blessed the structure known as variable-interest entity, or VIE,

China’s Securities Regulator Lays Out Overseas Listing Rules – WSJ
The draft framework aims for clarity following Beijing’s crackdown on overseas listings by Chinese companies

China’s securities regulator said domestic companies seeking to sell shares abroad would have to follow domestic rules and file for local registration, in a draft framework meant to clarify proceedings in a market rocked by the state’s crackdown on overseas listings.

The draft rules, released on Friday, follow a nearly six-month pause in Chinese listings in the U.S., since the ill-fated New York initial public offering for ride-hailing giant Didi Global Inc. DIDI -0.53% In July, the Chinese government punished Didi for front-running domestic regulations and subsequently said it would install guidelines for Chinese companies selling shares overseas. Companies have put on hold their listing plans pending more regulatory clarity from Beijing.

• 12/26/2021 – Chinese companies set up as variable interest entities (VIEs) are allowed to list in offshore markets if they register with regulators and meet compliance rules, according to a draft of a new regulation released on Christmas Eve by the China Securities Regulatory Commission (CSRC). The regulation also allows mainland-incorporated firms to directly list overseas without the need for a VIE if they meet the requirements. The draft was published online to solicit public opinion through January 23. The CSRC said that the rule is not retroactive, so companies already listed as VIEs overseas are exempt from the stricter rules. The new rules “don’t demand companies that seek offshore listing get regulatory approval, instead they need only file relevant documents with the CSRC for records. So it is essentially paving the way for overseas listings,” said Luo Zhiyu, a partner at DeHeng Law Offices who specialises in cross-border IPOs, mergers and acquisition – is this good news?

China’s new VIE rule eases concerns about overseas IPOs following months of uncertainty after Didi probe

1. China’s securities watchdog published a new draft regulation stating companies can list overseas as variable interest entities if they meet compliance rules
2. A requirement for security reviews of certain companies seeking overseas listings after Didi Global’s New York IPO led to uncertainty about the VIE structure